Excellent analysis and clear sighted anticipation of coming events. Also your post is very well grounded in cross cultural references. This is just what we urgently need more of if we are to cross the bridge successfully from sudden civilizational collapse into a healthier, uncontaminated and non-parasitical way of living (phoenix rising). Your work is extremely helpful (and healthy) in that it invokes personal growth and personal responsibility in equal measure, showing how these two branches are rooted in transcendental experience of the cosmos as it truly is. It is interesting to add one more point here. Not many people know that Wilhelm Reich proved incontestably that the 2nd law of thermodynamics (which the concept of entropy relies upon) is contradicted by an orgone accumulator, thus demonstrating the 2nd law to be merely a mental construct. The construct does indeed apply to an aspect of material reality, but it does so only due to a mode of self-limiting perception. Reich proved this directly to Einstein in Einstein's own house, but Einstein decided to ignore it once he had seen the proof. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics - and its association with the dogma of entropy - is a foundational pillar of Western hegemony. It is part of the unreal "dreaming" of the Kali Yuga cycle. Let's hope that ends sooner rather than later and that people prepare their minds and hearts in advance of great changes afoot. People should not wait until their house is burning to look for a hose and a water source. Very apropos too what you say about Medjugorje.
Thank you, as usual, for your valuable contribution to the discussion and kind words. Your insights into the concept of entropy and its relation to the Kali Yuga cycle are very helpful, as is your perspective on the "unreal dreaming" of this age.
The idea that we are living in a time characterized by spiritual confusion and material attachment resonates with many interpretations of this era. It's fascinating to consider how these ancient concepts might help us understand the complexities of our modern world.
The topic of 'orgone energy' indeed invites an esoteric journey down an obscure rabbit hole. I appreciate your bringing it up, as it also invites further exploration of Lord Kelvin's Second Law of Thermodynamics. Didn't Einstein's assistant offer a reasonable account for the temperature variance observed in Reich's experiments?
As we've discussed, Rational Spirituality supports the theory of panpsychism — the idea that consciousness is a fundamental aspect of reality, similar to how energy is considered fundamental in physics. This parallel supports the notion of consciousness as both a form of energy and information.
Our theory that consciousness survives death aligns with the Second Law: the coherent energy of life (the soul) is eternal, while non-conscious incoherent energy adds to the entropy of the morgue. Personally, I'm rather attached to the Second Law. 😊
Well,from what I gather, Einstein's assistant never proffered any reasonable (i.e. convincing) explanation at all. It was, if anything, a repudiation, no more. Besides, in a discovery of this magnitude, why would Einstein choose to delegate a rebuttal to a mere assistant? Especially since he personally had the accumulator set up on his own premises? Be that as it may, the repudiation of Reich's discoveries in the last century by the scientific establishment can only be compared to the repudiation of Bruno in the 16th century by the ecclesiastical establishment, and for very similar if not identical reasons: namely, that such discoveries rocked the boat more even than those of Copernicus had. As for a metaphorical attribution of the 2nd Law to the physical body once the soul has departed for realms of pure coherence where dissipative forces are no longer required to maintain biological coherence (i.e. the afterlife), one could argue that the sweet stench of the rotting corpse is merely the prequel to a regeneration of Earth's vital force via replenishment through the 5 Elements, which return to the Earth in a primal form. Hence, the 2nd Law in this case leads not to entropy as such but rather to emergence of order and future potential. Those are my reflections, but they align, essentially, with Reich's discovery of orgone. Be that as it may, I appreciate very much the tenor and content of your post and hope it extends to a wider audience.
Intuitively, it seems to me that orgone energy, or bio-energy, is not substantially different from concepts like qi or prana. In other words, Reich's discovery might be reconcilable with the Second Law of Thermodynamics if we consider the former as sub-quantum and the latter as classical. Qi, prana, and orgone are philosophical propositions (for now), while the Second Law remains a scientific principle. Even Sheldrake's morphic resonance could implicate sub-quantum dynamics.
The flow of energy from higher to lower potentials, as the Second Law suggests, applies primarily to classical systems. I've never been fully satisfied with the notion that the Second Law treats the universe as an "isolated" system — it obviously, IMO, is not.
Would you be comfortable with orgone energy being classified as a form of subtle energy that currently eludes scientific discourse? I don't believe these two concepts necessarily describe either/or propositions but rather both/and.
Regarding my reference to "sub-quantum," I hold that the concept of sub-quantum theory could serve as a bridge between classical and quantum physics, potentially explaining how the Second Law emerges from more fundamental processes while still holding true at the quantum level. The sub-quantum thermodynamics approach attempts to model quantum mechanics using nonequilibrium thermodynamics.
This perspective not only enriches our understanding of the action between energy and entropy but also opens up new avenues for exploring concepts like orgone and other subtle energies within the framework of modern physics. How say you?
(Be sure to read Tim Holt's comments on this post.)
Well, this is a longer conversation, but I would say that Qi, prana and orgone should never be confused on the conceptual level. What they do share is a common root in holism. Each defies the mind-body split that has proved to be such a scourge for Western "civilization". From this artificial Ahrimanic split, monsters have accumulated to a critical level in the era of "Covid". Rationalism and intellectualism cut off from heart-centered empathy and sensory-somatic experience birthed a wide range of physical sickness and psychopathology. The establishment has profited from this, poopooing subtle energy as pseudo-scientific, hence robbing from man his core inheritance and capacity for inner evolution. Meanwhile, covertly, the subtle aspects of man are being tampered with through occult technologies. This is precisely why Reich was so persecuted. Qi and prana have very complex and rich cultural and philosophical connotations. They are not philosophical propositions they are self-evident realities. Reich, as we know, moved from medicine via psychoanalysis to an exploration of biological and cosmological reality. There is significant photographic evidence of heterodynes elicited by interactions of human orgone fields with the orgone fields of cosmic bacteria and living "UFOs" whose propulsory dynamics make use of orgone to travel inter-dimensionally. Just as Qi can become "Toxic" or "Evil" (if one understands Chinese language) so can orgone transform into negative forms which are highly destructive. Prana derives actually from two Sanskrit roots which imply specific directionality (in and slightly downwards). Orgone does not flow in the same direction as electromagnetic energy, but in reverse (closer to Tiller's magneto-electric energy.) Furthermore, electromagnetism according to Reich, is to be seen as antagonistic to orgone when produced in non-natural ways. The only common ground between orgone, "Qi", "Prana" and quantum theory (at least in regard to Planck and those later physicists who felt similarly) is a root in cosmic consciousness. Reich disclosed the neurotic needs of modern man to protect himself from real life within a cocoon of mechanistic materialism and repressed libido. Because the Sun never shines into the cocoon, the Jungian Shadow inevitably grows stronger in there, just like mold grows in a damp closet. Today we are seeing the efflorescence of the monstrous. Monsters are in superabundance most particularly in the US, as evidenced in the various commentariats. The dark Ahrimanic powers easily control many self-styled truth tellers and "awake" people who spew poisonous frothings of hatred and judgment as from the devil's maw. This makes our current problems even worse because rationality is being cast into the mud at the same time as holistic perception. Thus the sleep of reason and the asphyxiation by false intellect entwine around man's psyche like a python. The Christ consciousness which is the sole remedy for this sickness is sought by the relatively few, but a time of reckoning surely beckons.
This has been a really stimulating conversation! I appreciate you sharing your perspective. It's given me a lot to think about in terms of the connections between holism, subtle energies, and the shadow self. I especially resonate with your emphasis on the need for a more integrated perspective that values both scientific inquiry and spiritual exploration.
While we may have some differing interpretations, I think we both agree on the importance of seeking deeper understanding and promoting individual and collective well-being. Thanks again for engaging in this dialogue!
Yes, agreed. I would add, for the sake of clarity on my part, I consider it essential in today's hard-edged world to be as scientifically rigorous as possible, even when scientific rigor has itself come under the spotlight. Such supposed rigor is compromised by unexamined premises and assumptions, not to mention fraud. Electro-molecular processes, for example, underlie all cell regulation via dodecahedral vesicles which stream exegetic information. These geometric vesicles are mistaken for pathogenic viruses by ignorant mainstream doctors, while on the other hand, they are completely misunderstood and misrepresented by paranoid substackers who project the omnipotent hand of the deep state into everything that exists. That is a secondary form of cultural psychosis built on the primary one of unthinking compliance. Both are equally irrational. Hence, we need to produce a fusion of rationality and spirituality as never before!
Thanks for including the link to the museum in Maine. There is a great deal of similarity between Reich and Tesla, particularly involving government censorship and suppression. This only happens when groundbreaking work deviates significantly from the official narratives. We see it in science, archaeology, and other disciplines. Rupert Sheldrake wrote about it in "The Science Delusion." Sheldrake's own Ted Talk was banned.
Excellent analysis and clear sighted anticipation of coming events. Also your post is very well grounded in cross cultural references. This is just what we urgently need more of if we are to cross the bridge successfully from sudden civilizational collapse into a healthier, uncontaminated and non-parasitical way of living (phoenix rising). Your work is extremely helpful (and healthy) in that it invokes personal growth and personal responsibility in equal measure, showing how these two branches are rooted in transcendental experience of the cosmos as it truly is. It is interesting to add one more point here. Not many people know that Wilhelm Reich proved incontestably that the 2nd law of thermodynamics (which the concept of entropy relies upon) is contradicted by an orgone accumulator, thus demonstrating the 2nd law to be merely a mental construct. The construct does indeed apply to an aspect of material reality, but it does so only due to a mode of self-limiting perception. Reich proved this directly to Einstein in Einstein's own house, but Einstein decided to ignore it once he had seen the proof. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics - and its association with the dogma of entropy - is a foundational pillar of Western hegemony. It is part of the unreal "dreaming" of the Kali Yuga cycle. Let's hope that ends sooner rather than later and that people prepare their minds and hearts in advance of great changes afoot. People should not wait until their house is burning to look for a hose and a water source. Very apropos too what you say about Medjugorje.
Thank you, as usual, for your valuable contribution to the discussion and kind words. Your insights into the concept of entropy and its relation to the Kali Yuga cycle are very helpful, as is your perspective on the "unreal dreaming" of this age.
The idea that we are living in a time characterized by spiritual confusion and material attachment resonates with many interpretations of this era. It's fascinating to consider how these ancient concepts might help us understand the complexities of our modern world.
The topic of 'orgone energy' indeed invites an esoteric journey down an obscure rabbit hole. I appreciate your bringing it up, as it also invites further exploration of Lord Kelvin's Second Law of Thermodynamics. Didn't Einstein's assistant offer a reasonable account for the temperature variance observed in Reich's experiments?
As we've discussed, Rational Spirituality supports the theory of panpsychism — the idea that consciousness is a fundamental aspect of reality, similar to how energy is considered fundamental in physics. This parallel supports the notion of consciousness as both a form of energy and information.
Our theory that consciousness survives death aligns with the Second Law: the coherent energy of life (the soul) is eternal, while non-conscious incoherent energy adds to the entropy of the morgue. Personally, I'm rather attached to the Second Law. 😊
Well,from what I gather, Einstein's assistant never proffered any reasonable (i.e. convincing) explanation at all. It was, if anything, a repudiation, no more. Besides, in a discovery of this magnitude, why would Einstein choose to delegate a rebuttal to a mere assistant? Especially since he personally had the accumulator set up on his own premises? Be that as it may, the repudiation of Reich's discoveries in the last century by the scientific establishment can only be compared to the repudiation of Bruno in the 16th century by the ecclesiastical establishment, and for very similar if not identical reasons: namely, that such discoveries rocked the boat more even than those of Copernicus had. As for a metaphorical attribution of the 2nd Law to the physical body once the soul has departed for realms of pure coherence where dissipative forces are no longer required to maintain biological coherence (i.e. the afterlife), one could argue that the sweet stench of the rotting corpse is merely the prequel to a regeneration of Earth's vital force via replenishment through the 5 Elements, which return to the Earth in a primal form. Hence, the 2nd Law in this case leads not to entropy as such but rather to emergence of order and future potential. Those are my reflections, but they align, essentially, with Reich's discovery of orgone. Be that as it may, I appreciate very much the tenor and content of your post and hope it extends to a wider audience.
Intuitively, it seems to me that orgone energy, or bio-energy, is not substantially different from concepts like qi or prana. In other words, Reich's discovery might be reconcilable with the Second Law of Thermodynamics if we consider the former as sub-quantum and the latter as classical. Qi, prana, and orgone are philosophical propositions (for now), while the Second Law remains a scientific principle. Even Sheldrake's morphic resonance could implicate sub-quantum dynamics.
The flow of energy from higher to lower potentials, as the Second Law suggests, applies primarily to classical systems. I've never been fully satisfied with the notion that the Second Law treats the universe as an "isolated" system — it obviously, IMO, is not.
Would you be comfortable with orgone energy being classified as a form of subtle energy that currently eludes scientific discourse? I don't believe these two concepts necessarily describe either/or propositions but rather both/and.
Regarding my reference to "sub-quantum," I hold that the concept of sub-quantum theory could serve as a bridge between classical and quantum physics, potentially explaining how the Second Law emerges from more fundamental processes while still holding true at the quantum level. The sub-quantum thermodynamics approach attempts to model quantum mechanics using nonequilibrium thermodynamics.
This perspective not only enriches our understanding of the action between energy and entropy but also opens up new avenues for exploring concepts like orgone and other subtle energies within the framework of modern physics. How say you?
(Be sure to read Tim Holt's comments on this post.)
Well, this is a longer conversation, but I would say that Qi, prana and orgone should never be confused on the conceptual level. What they do share is a common root in holism. Each defies the mind-body split that has proved to be such a scourge for Western "civilization". From this artificial Ahrimanic split, monsters have accumulated to a critical level in the era of "Covid". Rationalism and intellectualism cut off from heart-centered empathy and sensory-somatic experience birthed a wide range of physical sickness and psychopathology. The establishment has profited from this, poopooing subtle energy as pseudo-scientific, hence robbing from man his core inheritance and capacity for inner evolution. Meanwhile, covertly, the subtle aspects of man are being tampered with through occult technologies. This is precisely why Reich was so persecuted. Qi and prana have very complex and rich cultural and philosophical connotations. They are not philosophical propositions they are self-evident realities. Reich, as we know, moved from medicine via psychoanalysis to an exploration of biological and cosmological reality. There is significant photographic evidence of heterodynes elicited by interactions of human orgone fields with the orgone fields of cosmic bacteria and living "UFOs" whose propulsory dynamics make use of orgone to travel inter-dimensionally. Just as Qi can become "Toxic" or "Evil" (if one understands Chinese language) so can orgone transform into negative forms which are highly destructive. Prana derives actually from two Sanskrit roots which imply specific directionality (in and slightly downwards). Orgone does not flow in the same direction as electromagnetic energy, but in reverse (closer to Tiller's magneto-electric energy.) Furthermore, electromagnetism according to Reich, is to be seen as antagonistic to orgone when produced in non-natural ways. The only common ground between orgone, "Qi", "Prana" and quantum theory (at least in regard to Planck and those later physicists who felt similarly) is a root in cosmic consciousness. Reich disclosed the neurotic needs of modern man to protect himself from real life within a cocoon of mechanistic materialism and repressed libido. Because the Sun never shines into the cocoon, the Jungian Shadow inevitably grows stronger in there, just like mold grows in a damp closet. Today we are seeing the efflorescence of the monstrous. Monsters are in superabundance most particularly in the US, as evidenced in the various commentariats. The dark Ahrimanic powers easily control many self-styled truth tellers and "awake" people who spew poisonous frothings of hatred and judgment as from the devil's maw. This makes our current problems even worse because rationality is being cast into the mud at the same time as holistic perception. Thus the sleep of reason and the asphyxiation by false intellect entwine around man's psyche like a python. The Christ consciousness which is the sole remedy for this sickness is sought by the relatively few, but a time of reckoning surely beckons.
This has been a really stimulating conversation! I appreciate you sharing your perspective. It's given me a lot to think about in terms of the connections between holism, subtle energies, and the shadow self. I especially resonate with your emphasis on the need for a more integrated perspective that values both scientific inquiry and spiritual exploration.
While we may have some differing interpretations, I think we both agree on the importance of seeking deeper understanding and promoting individual and collective well-being. Thanks again for engaging in this dialogue!
Yes, agreed. I would add, for the sake of clarity on my part, I consider it essential in today's hard-edged world to be as scientifically rigorous as possible, even when scientific rigor has itself come under the spotlight. Such supposed rigor is compromised by unexamined premises and assumptions, not to mention fraud. Electro-molecular processes, for example, underlie all cell regulation via dodecahedral vesicles which stream exegetic information. These geometric vesicles are mistaken for pathogenic viruses by ignorant mainstream doctors, while on the other hand, they are completely misunderstood and misrepresented by paranoid substackers who project the omnipotent hand of the deep state into everything that exists. That is a secondary form of cultural psychosis built on the primary one of unthinking compliance. Both are equally irrational. Hence, we need to produce a fusion of rationality and spirituality as never before!
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Thanks for including the link to the museum in Maine. There is a great deal of similarity between Reich and Tesla, particularly involving government censorship and suppression. This only happens when groundbreaking work deviates significantly from the official narratives. We see it in science, archaeology, and other disciplines. Rupert Sheldrake wrote about it in "The Science Delusion." Sheldrake's own Ted Talk was banned.
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